GW Model Viewer - Guild Wars Forums

mYst36 · Apr 07, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Is there a model viewer for Guild Wars, like the one for World of Warcraft? I can't find one anywhere...

-Thanks

Opeth11 · Apr 07, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Perhaps a description of what a 'model viewer' is? Not all Guild Wars players have played World of Warcraft.

Maybe the name is self explanatory, but who knows what types of evil names Blizzard can come up for things.

Mandy Memory · Apr 07, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

I would assume it views the character models (or maybe every model)

Either way there isnt one that I know of.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 07, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I have seen some videos of WoW interfaces that show a 3d render of your target, but you could be talking about a mesh viewer or something.

Either way, no.

cangeman · Apr 07, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Mandy Memory

I would assume it views the character models (or maybe every model)

Either way there isnt one that I know of.

You are correct. I used to play around with model viewers for both Final Fantasy XI and World of Warcraft to check out different character models/equipment/animations. I've yet to see a GW model viewer though.

EternalTempest · Apr 07, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

As far as I know the gw.dat file has not been "cracked" yet to be able to extract resources.

I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.

I'd say give it time.. then beware of keyloggers if it shows up.

Replicant · Apr 07, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.

Site you're referring to is: http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Guild_Wars_DAT
and a little more talking of it.: http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Talk:Guild_Wars_DAT

I Personally wish Anet would allow us to see the files in there, as that could open up things such as Character Builders (such as armor looks, colors, facial features.. etc..) but think they don't want people to make KeyLoggers hidden in the Character Builders.

one guy said he extracted 9104 files from it, just wish he gave a how-too... i just wanna see whats in there, not modify them.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 08, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

I don't really see the point in extracting data, because you can't really add anything onto the game. The models, textures, and sounds are probably in their own format anyway.

The only benefit from messing with the DAT file I can see is more hacking.

TheMosesPHD · Apr 08, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Well you could replace the all the models with new models, or mix them up so, at least on your own screen, you look like an avicara or all trolls have neon skin or just basic visual nonsense.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Apr 08, 2006, 02:32 AM // 02:32

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Originally Posted by SnoopJeDi

I don't really see the point in extracting data, because you can't really add anything onto the game. The models, textures, and sounds are probably in their own format anyway.

The only benefit from messing with the DAT file I can see is more hacking.

Pfft. Just because you can't see why doesnt mean the only intention is hacking...

Anyway, there are artists and 3D modellers or even just the curious who just like to take a look at the models, textures and sounds. It's sort of a way to learn how things are done or just to appreciate it. Pffft hacking is the only benefit...pfft!

SnoopJeDi · Apr 08, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Look at the models, textures, and sound? I can think of one good place that doesn't require hacking a binary data file...

Like I said before, the aforementioned are most likely in a proprietary format (see: id software), and would require separate software written based on experimentation (see: goliathvt's md5mesh viewer and exporter etc.)

I can only see abuse stemming from it, ie. replacing all monk skins with neon-green, all mesmer with neon-pink, etc. to give an unfair advantage in identifying targets at range to the modifier of the data. Feel free to propose something that is actually worth the work, other than perusing the assets (once again, I already know a place...)

[edit]Just to clear things up, I'm aware that WoW is fairly extendable, but only within the bounds of Blizzard's specifications.

[editx2] Not to mention:

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Lasareth · Apr 08, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

To be honest, I don't think that people are really too afraid to break the rules. The real reason is what EternalTempest said:

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

As far as I know the gw.dat file has not been "cracked" yet to be able to extract resources.

I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.

I'd say give it time.. then beware of keyloggers if it shows up.

FFXI had some pretty separate and easy files to crack, so it was easy to create an algorithm that can read each file and pull info from it. GW.dat is just one big hunk of file that could take a large effort to decode.

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I can only see abuse stemming from it, ie. replacing all monk skins with neon-green, all mesmer with neon-pink, etc. to give an unfair advantage in identifying targets at range to the modifier of the data. Feel free to propose something that is actually worth the work, other than perusing the assets (once again, I already know a place...)

This is very unlikely, for the reason above: GW.dat is a huge file that cannot be easily modified.

Vermilion Okeanos · Apr 08, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

This is very unlikely, for the reason above: GW.dat is a huge file that cannot be easily modified.

Until time gives in

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I do remember that some people accidently encounter a GW debug mode during the beta, where the character lose all their meshes (in game) and show their polygon. That was the closest thing I had seen in terms of "Model Viewing".

Apr 07, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43	#1
mYst36 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006	GW Model Viewer Is there a model viewer for Guild Wars, like the one for World of Warcraft? I can't find one anywhere... -Thanks

Apr 07, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56	#2
Opeth11 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada Guild: Demon of the Fall [Opet] Profession: Mo/Me	Perhaps a description of what a 'model viewer' is? Not all Guild Wars players have played World of Warcraft. Maybe the name is self explanatory, but who knows what types of evil names Blizzard can come up for things.

Apr 07, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08	#3
Mandy Memory Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Guild: Xen of Sigils [XoO] Profession: W/	I would assume it views the character models (or maybe every model) Either way there isnt one that I know of.

Apr 07, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56	#4
SnoopJeDi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Saved By My Pinchers of Peril Profession: R/N	I have seen some videos of WoW interfaces that show a 3d render of your target, but you could be talking about a mesh viewer or something. Either way, no.

Apr 07, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14	#6
EternalTempest Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: United States Guild: Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM] Profession: E/	As far as I know the gw.dat file has not been "cracked" yet to be able to extract resources. I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand. I'd say give it time.. then beware of keyloggers if it shows up.

Apr 08, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45	#8
SnoopJeDi Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Saved By My Pinchers of Peril Profession: R/N	I don't really see the point in extracting data, because you can't really add anything onto the game. The models, textures, and sounds are probably in their own format anyway. The only benefit from messing with the DAT file I can see is more hacking.

Apr 08, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50	#9
TheMosesPHD Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oregon Guild: Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo] Profession: R/	Well you could replace the all the models with new models, or mix them up so, at least on your own screen, you look like an avicara or all trolls have neon skin or just basic visual nonsense.